We can practice architecture like a honeybee or a hornet. Most architects are honey bees, but Rem Koolhaas is a hornet: he stings you where no one else does (1). Koolhaas is, above all, an interviewer. His interviews contribute to his architectural production as a way of working, thinking and speculating. Moreover, they are a part of the oral history of architecture, a discipline that remains largely unexamined and on which, nevertheless, Koolhaas’ architecture of conversations is based. He began this work between 1963 and 1968, when he did interviews for the Dutch newspaper Haagse Post. Beyond the biographical, the interview is one of his most frequent working formats, and he began in an era of explosion of publications and other media that established the modern architectural canon by illustrating McLuhan’s proposition that “the medium is the message”. What Koolhaas demonstrates through his interviews is how to decipher history, to interpret the architecture of others and to include issues that have previously been left outside of the discipline.
This thesis attempts to rectify the omission of Koolhaas’ role as an interviewer. In order to accomplish this task, it was necessary to review an entire oral archive from which certain voices and stories were absent in the architectural history record, despite being the product or consequence of his work. This can be done by analysing both his questions and the answers he obtained, as well as the focus of attention of the media when Koolhaas himself was interviewed. The aim of this work is not to draw linguistic lessons from journalistic techniques that can be applied in architectural practice, but to show that Koolhaas’ interviewing technique is a vehicle for the production of critical thinking. The aim is to show that his interviews perform a practical, theoretical, and critical function, and to thus contribute to the understanding of the essayistic, instrumental, and speculative value of oral transmission as a design tool in itself.
The first part of this thesis deals with the literary form of the interview as an epistemological form and the context of a little researched architectural interview as a fertile ground for the study of the discipline. The second part will provide specific details of the interviews conducted by Koolhaas: what is the product, its categorisation and, finally, its significance in culture. These spoken resources, far from being a fetish, represent the theoretical classification of an architecture that applies orality as a method of work, design, thought, and exploration. Just as some architectural historians and writers have advocated and endeavoured to write alternative and more inclusive architectural stories, Rem before Koolhaas adds that of an oral architecture, of a multifaceted architect who is at the same time an interviewer.
Keywords: oral architecture, interview, journalism, Rem Koolhaas, Haagse Post
(1) KOOLHAAS, Rem; FLOTHUIS, Trino and MULISCH, Harry: Honeybees and hornets. Haagse Post talks to Harry Mulisch. In: Haagse Post (Politiek/Literatuur). Amsterdam: Bonaventura, September 24, 1966, p. 8.